• t_berium@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    There is another type: Those who think they are funny and tell everyone how wonderfully “weird” they are. There’s usually nothing more personality than “annoying” and “annoyingly unfunny”.

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    19 hours ago

    How do we categorise people who were bullied and called weird as a child for having autism and now have a trauma reaction to the word?

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        5 hours ago

        My lemming in the Internet you do realize that reaction is because of social discrimination and punishment for not falling in line with expectations, right?

        I wouldn’t have a reflexive reaction if I didn’t have experience with being singled out by others because of a damn medical record. I had to be background wallflower at every turn to blend in. I had to grow up with fear that I would be caught out and be treated as an undesirable at any moment.

        So yeah, it’s not that simple. Go to med school and maybe present your fucking credentials if you want to be prescriptive.

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          40 minutes ago

          Lol k, for some it is that simple. Big surprise people have different reactions, I’m sure acting like an ass endears you to others.

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    I feel I disagree. Those who get mad at being called weird just haven’t learned to accept and embrace their weirdness yet. It took me a while. And I still sometimes feel the need to hide it. It can take a while to work through.

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      22 hours ago

      raise your freak flag when no one’s looking
      have it half mast when your friends’ around
      stuff it under the bed when family’s about

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        20 hours ago

        This is the way. Even if anime is widely accepted and loved nowadays, I still refuse to speak with anybody about it unless they bring it up first.

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      17 hours ago

      Don’t see how this is a disagreement. If you don’t accept and embrace your weirdness then you’re bad weird. Doesn’t mean you can’t change to good weird. “Accept and embrace” doesn’t mean shout it from the rooftops btw, just means you don’t try to stifle it.

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        17 hours ago

        I think I may have been reading too much into the word “bad” implying as if the person themself is bad since they still dislike being referred to as weird.

        I think it can also depend on who calls you weird and why/how. I’ve received both the negative, “ew, you’re weird” reactions as well as positive ones. Like a friend calling me a “strange human being” in an endearing way; or another saying I’m 80/20 with my weirdness. With 80% being good weird and the remaining 20% just plain weird. I think being called weird in a positive way can help with embracing it.

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        16 hours ago

        When I was 12 or so and called weird it effected mv confidence. Now I love it. The trouble is there is the weird some people want to be, and their is the weirdo fucking no one wants to be.

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      22 hours ago

      And the only way to meet your true lifelong friends, the ones who become framily, are the ones who know your weirdness and embrace it.

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    23 hours ago

    Yup. Just like racists and bigots get mad when you call them racist or bigoted, while decent people ask what they said that was offensive to avoid future misunderstandings.

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        23 hours ago

        No one is completely without fault. If you think you are, you’re just unaware of your bias.

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      It does my head in that these people moan racist, homophobic, antisemite etc have no meaning now. I see it a lot, and it’s just a whine cause they’ve been called out.

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      Is it reasonable to get mad from being called racist because you, as a shop employee, didn’t just let the customer take hundreds of dollars in cigarettes they demanded for free?

      If someone calls you a rapist pedophile, are you going to get upset, or ask how you can better reduce your rapist pedophileness?

      Would it be unreasonable to be upset if someone is specifically using that because they know in the local eco-niche, it could cost you your job and livelihood if people believe them?

      What if you’re autistic and you’ve had a long life of people misrepresenting you intentionally or unintentionally because the double empathy problem is a thing? Like older kids beat the fuck out of you, and when they get in trouble they just claim you were being racist when you were just waiting in silence for the school library to open, and as you cry with eyes bruised and swollen shut, you are told you will be getting the same punishment as the older kids who just assaulted you, and also that the adults in the situation are okay believing you are a racist. Etc.

      I definitely agree with the larger sentiment of your statement, especially for the large scale picture of things, and existence of people like MAGA, But the local context and social behaviours can definitely lead to situations that can make the insult and claim hard to internalize, when the claim has only been used against you with stark dishonesty.

      Hell, got assaulted by a random drunk driver recently, and im glad they went for ‘pedo’ instead of ‘racist’ because it was much less believable to surrounding people in that context. Still doesn’t make me question what I could have done differently while being assaulted by a drunkard. Nuance exists, and bad actors exist within every group, and frankly it shouldn’t be damning to find fewer insults more insulting, because of your own disdain for racists and abusers.

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        There are exceptions to every rule. Killing someone is bad. Killing someone about to detonate a bomb and destroy a city is heroic.

        As a general rule, if someone tells me I said something racist, I’d want to know what it was and how it was perceived as racist to avoid making that mistake again. Have you ever tried to do that with an overt racist? Immediate defensive anger peacocking.

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          yes absolutely. few things are binary. it’s like people claiming pro-palestine protestors are antisemitic, or trying to take the valid examples of exceptions as an excuse for unrelated bigotry. it adds a lot of noise and makes it hard to navigate, so a lot of people running on low-dimensional heuristic maps of the situation will lash out and cause legitimate grievance between other people who can or can’t contextualize what happened and why. those who can’t repeat the cycle, and socialize it.

          why russia has such an easy time causing division and self-segregating behaviour. also why anti-intellectualism and self-serving behaviour is bad. we are too hackable in contextually ‘noisy’ environments, and bad actors love using that to their advantage.

          it takes a lot of energy and time to understand how many blindspots we have within our oversimplified prediction of the world, and diverse environments and experiences, both physical and cyberphysical, and how that leads other people to be making different assumptions about what the world actually looks like. this includes our projections and expectations of others, battling our innate predictive modelling and biases/blindspots.

          the issue is when an audience is running on those heuristics and making important choices that affect people. being overconfident in your over-binary predictions can cause these damages that cycle a self fulfilling spiral of legitimate grievance. again, an easy fire to stoke.

  • RedSnt 👓♂️🖥️@feddit.dk
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    19 hours ago

    What about people that compulsively correct you for using the word “normal” about neurotypicals? From my point of view it seems like they get offended by being called normal, almost like the reverse of being called weird (imo).