• pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 days ago

    Please, don’t be dismissive of a real problem just because people you (rightfully) hate are disproportionately more affected.

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      4 days ago

      The “real problem” is that young people broadly have rejected challenging themselves AT ALL, about anything, and as a result have lost many skills we used to nurture growing up, like how to socialize and be liked by others and how to be charming and make others feel good.

      Our real problem is a gnawing emptiness that people keep trying to satiate with online discourse and safe-spaces and discord servers where you can kick out and ban anyone who doesn’t align with your values.

      As a result, young girls and boys alike are more lonely than ever, but it’s hitting men especially hard because they’re less able to fill that gap with close friendships and cuddling a best friend on the couch in a non-sexual way.

      And as a result, they get pushed towards right-wing messaging, which makes others drive them away further, and society is just fucking CURDLING all over, and the more we bicker about it on the internet, the worse it gets.

    • KaiReeve@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      The ‘real problem’ you’re referencing is that hateful young men are having trouble finding young women who share their values?

      The obvious solution is for those men to reassess their values. If they can’t do that, then they deserve to be alone.

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        5 days ago

        The loneliness epidemic is a real thing. Refusing to acknowledge it helps nobody.

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          4 days ago

          We can acknowledge it, sure, but that doesn’t solve it. What is your solution? Force young women to marry men they don’t love or respect?

          The real solution is far simpler: let these hateful men remain lonely until they are desperate enough to affect a change in themselves.

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            4 days ago

            What if, hear me out because it might be a crazy thought, it’s not just the hateful men that are affected? You think nazis are the only ones experiencing male loneliness?

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              4 days ago

              That’s literally the context of this post. The picture implies that women prefer men who punch Nazis over the 5 symbols used by men who typically support fascism.

              • Syrc@lemmy.world
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                4 days ago

                No, this post implies that “male loneliness” is a thing only because most men are “douches”. And that’s just a blatant misrepresentation of reality which requires a deep misandry to believe even for a second.

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                  4 days ago

                  Plus, it implies that loneliness is just a matter of having a partner. While this is definitely an important aspect, loneliness is general intended (in the surveys etc.) as being literally alone a large percentage of time, including not having friends or acquaintances.

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                    4 days ago

                    Exactly. Men are in general much more isolated than women and their friendships are, on average, less deep. And that’s an endemic issue of the entire society, amplified both by toxic masculinity and toxic feminism.

                    Reducing all of that to “ofc you get no bitches if you’re a nazi, serves you right lmao” is just disingenuous.

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        5 days ago

        I’ve noticed that there are a surprising number of hateful or broken young women that these dudes are not that lonely.