Vespucci participated in at least two voyages of the Age of Discovery between 1497 and 1504, first on behalf of Spain (1499–1500) and then for Portugal (1501–1502).
Exactly, what did I say that contradicts this? I said Spain with an Italian as a captain, discovered America.
And I agree with you. But I am not responsible for what a bunch of assholes did 500 years ago when I wasn’t even the idea of a human being. I despise what they did, but I don’t feel, and never will, responsible for what they did. I can (and already do) fight for their mistakes to not happen again, but I wasn’t there so what they did is not my fault.
Past mistakes can’t be undone. Diferent time, diferent people, diferent way of thinking. I’m on that boat - pun intended - with you. My country started the trans-oceanic slave trade. A lot of bad juju on my ancestors tally, there.
What I do enjoy is joking with the way my country chose to settle on new lands. Most opted for iron and gunpowder, we opted for the go forth and multiply approach. The dutch were thwarted to invade Brazil because the people living there claimed Portuguese descent.
The land was already discovered, by the people living in it and even by outsiders like the Nordics. The people from the Pacific islands (I don’t know if the correct term is Polinesia) are also said to have come into contact. From the 15th-16th century onwards, some outsiders decided to destroy civilizations and claim the lands. Yes, the modern nations wouldn’t exist without imperialism and colonization, but I think many indigenous people would have preferred to develop and see the rise and fall of their nations during those centuries (and into the present) without said imperialism and colonization. My latter point is that it is not a “flex”, in case you were thinking it is.
Bitch please, if my country hadn’t discovered the land you are living in right now, you wouldn’t be a nation. And my country is still there.
Your country is Paleolithic hunter-gatherers from the North Asian Mammoth Steppe?
No, but if Spain (with an Italian as a captain) hadn’t discovered the Americas, the USA as we know them wouldn’t exist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amerigo_Vespucci
Eh, more like Republic of florence tbh. Colombus didn’t go to the mainland continent.
From the link you have provided:
Exactly, what did I say that contradicts this? I said Spain with an Italian as a captain, discovered America.
You guys could have chosen a different way to settle in those lands besides going all crazy for gold and wiping out the Aztecs in the process.
While you were doing that, my country was shipping off boats full of horny guys to fuck into existence our own settlements.
Make love, not war!
And I agree with you. But I am not responsible for what a bunch of assholes did 500 years ago when I wasn’t even the idea of a human being. I despise what they did, but I don’t feel, and never will, responsible for what they did. I can (and already do) fight for their mistakes to not happen again, but I wasn’t there so what they did is not my fault.
Past mistakes can’t be undone. Diferent time, diferent people, diferent way of thinking. I’m on that boat - pun intended - with you. My country started the trans-oceanic slave trade. A lot of bad juju on my ancestors tally, there.
What I do enjoy is joking with the way my country chose to settle on new lands. Most opted for iron and gunpowder, we opted for the go forth and multiply approach. The dutch were thwarted to invade Brazil because the people living there claimed Portuguese descent.
The land was already discovered, by the people living in it and even by outsiders like the Nordics. The people from the Pacific islands (I don’t know if the correct term is Polinesia) are also said to have come into contact. From the 15th-16th century onwards, some outsiders decided to destroy civilizations and claim the lands. Yes, the modern nations wouldn’t exist without imperialism and colonization, but I think many indigenous people would have preferred to develop and see the rise and fall of their nations during those centuries (and into the present) without said imperialism and colonization. My latter point is that it is not a “flex”, in case you were thinking it is.