the .world autist community has gotten a couple linux questions and you know what happens. people answered the question, in the info dumpy yet polite and helpful way possible. maybe we just need to spin up an ‘ask an autist about linux’ community somewhere. “we’ll answer your question along with 12 others you didn’t even know you had” kinda thing.
To be fair you would not believe the amount of times people have asked me things that are written in the man pages (for Linux problems). I think it’s only fair to ask that kind of thing (though with BSD I would expect a slightly higher level of expertise…
I am not shitting when I say I go look and trace the actual source code long before I step onto the forums.
BSD forums are filled with people who have been using UNIX since the 1980s, like fucking grand wizard shit, and they don’t have time for your stupid ass
It’s bad enough when people spend longer berating the OP for their question-asking etiquette than it would take to answer the question.
However it’s nothing compared to the absolute deviants who do provide an answer but do so in a deliberately oblique fashion that requires much more research to understand than the original problem.
It’s volunteer tech support, not testing that I’m pure of heart so I can access a mystic sword, you can just say the thing.
OMG yes. I left the Linux community a couple of months ago and my mental health improved almost immediately. I still use Linux; just left the community.
Fr. I went to the fedora discord and after asking a question in the help channel a guy straight up told me to Google it. Wow, so helpful, I wonder why Linux doesn’t have more users
TBF, you went to the Fedora discord, which is not officially run by Fedora. Fedora only officially runs their Matrix server and forum.
If I’m being completely honest, IME if you have to use Discord or Telegram for support, you might as well use ChatGPT. Something about those platforms makes people such assholes. People on forums are generally lovely. Matrix can be hit or miss.
edit: also, 4 year fedora user here, if theres anything I can do to help please let me know :)
I mean, that is still part of the Linux community. Thanks for the offer but by now I think I solved most of my annoyances (though it took a long time and was quite painful…)
Im not denying they aren’t. Just trying to give honest advice about where to get good advice. Hopefully in the future things won’t take as long or be as painful :(
TBF, they’re not talking about the official fedora devs or what they’re doing but the community in general. I would assume the Fedora discord is the largest discord dedicated to Fedora and whether we like it or not it’s a representation of the linux community.
In what way was I being hostile? I reread my comment and I really can’t figure it out. The first paragraph reads as very dismissive of OPs complaint, it just seemed to me like you missed the point OP was making.
I appreciate the helpfulness in pointing OP to better resources though!
See also “the Linux community”.
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It’s getting better! There are now distros for normies who don’t want to have to do anything besides press the power button.
the .world autist community has gotten a couple linux questions and you know what happens. people answered the question, in the info dumpy yet polite and helpful way possible. maybe we just need to spin up an ‘ask an autist about linux’ community somewhere. “we’ll answer your question along with 12 others you didn’t even know you had” kinda thing.
BSD is by far much worse than any Linux community. “Have you read the man pages.”
Yes mother fucker, that’s why I’m asking here!
To be fair you would not believe the amount of times people have asked me things that are written in the man pages (for Linux problems). I think it’s only fair to ask that kind of thing (though with BSD I would expect a slightly higher level of expertise…
BSD was never meant for the faint of heart.
I am not shitting when I say I go look and trace the actual source code long before I step onto the forums.
BSD forums are filled with people who have been using UNIX since the 1980s, like fucking grand wizard shit, and they don’t have time for your stupid ass
/UJ they’re not that bad tho
I will never feel bad for telling someone to read the source to answer their own question. It’s right there, man.
Granted, this is generally in a professional engineering context.
It’s bad enough when people spend longer berating the OP for their question-asking etiquette than it would take to answer the question.
However it’s nothing compared to the absolute deviants who do provide an answer but do so in a deliberately oblique fashion that requires much more research to understand than the original problem.
It’s volunteer tech support, not testing that I’m pure of heart so I can access a mystic sword, you can just say the thing.
PEBKAC RTFM
OMG yes. I left the Linux community a couple of months ago and my mental health improved almost immediately. I still use Linux; just left the community.
How does ‘the Linux community’ affect your mental health? Because you can’t read a manpage? LMFAO.
Like that
Fr. I went to the fedora discord and after asking a question in the help channel a guy straight up told me to Google it. Wow, so helpful, I wonder why Linux doesn’t have more users
TBF, you went to the Fedora discord, which is not officially run by Fedora. Fedora only officially runs their Matrix server and forum.
If I’m being completely honest, IME if you have to use Discord or Telegram for support, you might as well use ChatGPT. Something about those platforms makes people such assholes. People on forums are generally lovely. Matrix can be hit or miss.
edit: also, 4 year fedora user here, if theres anything I can do to help please let me know :)
I mean, that is still part of the Linux community. Thanks for the offer but by now I think I solved most of my annoyances (though it took a long time and was quite painful…)
Im not denying they aren’t. Just trying to give honest advice about where to get good advice. Hopefully in the future things won’t take as long or be as painful :(
TBF, they’re not talking about the official fedora devs or what they’re doing but the community in general. I would assume the Fedora discord is the largest discord dedicated to Fedora and whether we like it or not it’s a representation of the linux community.
I was just trying to be helpful, I wasn’t arguing over whether or not the Discord was the largest representation. Why did you get so hostile? :(
In what way was I being hostile? I reread my comment and I really can’t figure it out. The first paragraph reads as very dismissive of OPs complaint, it just seemed to me like you missed the point OP was making.
I appreciate the helpfulness in pointing OP to better resources though!
RTFM